Why is it that RANGERS are not wanted when doing like a HoH battle - Guild Wars Forums

Qenelder · Jun 09, 2005, 04:15 AM // 04:15

Im a RANGER (my main is atleast) and i never am able to find a HoH grp or any other important grp... all ppl ever want is AIR ELE, WARS, MNKS, and MES and NECROS occasionaly... and RANGERS like once in a life time.... Why are rangers so unpopular and what can one do to change it... I really like to defend Americas Honor but i can never find a grp on my RANGER

Qenelder Befreier RNG/ELE

Guild: Guardians of the Abyss

"If not us, then who?"

Renzol · Jun 09, 2005, 04:18 AM // 04:18

I think it's because the Rangers are easy to be taken out if a team's smart enough, and they don't deliver enough damage to make a big difference in a large battle, just my speculation though.

Perishiko ReLLiK · Jun 09, 2005, 04:19 AM // 04:19

Only because it's a class that most people suck with... so they'd rather not take a chance... in my opinion, the ranger can be the Best character in the game... That's right, i said it... The best! especially if you use a secondary class that mixes well... perhaps a little bleeding + poison + epidemic... add that on with a few distracting shots, and a few mana draining, and you have yourself a team shutdown character... solo... woot woot. Poisons are in wilderness survival eh... troll unguent to help monks a little anyone?...

Oh, wait... lots of people suck with them... so nvm... ignore my post... because if everyone figured out how good those nature rituals can stack together with other skills... the game would go into total Chaos (otherwise known as stradegy.)

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Originally Posted by Renzol

I think it's because the Rangers are easy to be taken out if a team's smart enough, and they don't deliver enough damage to make a big difference in a large battle, just my speculation though.

Given the right skills/right weaponry... the ranger can outdmg every class besides the ever famed elementalist... and the ranger just happens to be its bane... A team of rangers will tear up a team of elementalists any day... Besides... who else has bleeding + poison... hell... traps...

The ranger is nothing but a stradegy person... if the team wants Real stradegy, they will choose a ranger, and they will win.

Any of you other monks out there know how annoying poisoning a whole team can be without martyr... even with martyr, that's a loss of a good healing/protection spell... meh... sacrifices because of stradegy... but that's ok...

I don't see the people in this game ever working with stradegy outside of guild battles... so tombs should be safe, as long as good guilds stick to guild battles... mwuahahahaha.

eA-Zaku · Jun 09, 2005, 04:20 AM // 04:20

People haven't found the true potential of Rangers, therefore the majority of rangers available for HoH aren't as efficient as others, who have found a way to make good characters (Air Elementalists), or those who play characters that are "inherently" or assumed to be good (Warriors and Monks)

Renzol · Jun 09, 2005, 04:24 AM // 04:24

Yeah, most people can't figure out where a ranger goes in a big fight, and often when someone equips their skills, it's not the best mix. Like Zaku said, Elementalists and Warriors/Monks whatever, all have their own predetermined spot in battles, while the rangers have a spot, but most people don't know what it is

Qenelder · Jun 09, 2005, 04:24 AM // 04:24

and how am i suposed to get better when i can not find a grp, lol ok ya i use those types of stuff posion, bleeding, yadda yadda and i use rituals to.... lol ranger was so fun till i got and beat game and now all i can do is nothing since i can not find grp in hoh

Renzol · Jun 09, 2005, 04:27 AM // 04:27

If you wanna practice, just do the general arena, or go into the tourney, sure your stuck with Pugs either way, but you'll get better

Amnisac · Jun 09, 2005, 04:27 AM // 04:27

I've found a new ay to get into HoH. I just mention I can, and know how to use Frozen Soil and a few teams ussually jump for it. I've seen a few other ranger use this trick also. It also helps to have Monk as a secondary.

Qenelder · Jun 09, 2005, 04:28 AM // 04:28

and one other thing if you know any good way to make my self better then i already am plz tell me lol like tell me some skill setups or something i really like ranger prof

Qenelder · Jun 09, 2005, 04:35 AM // 04:35

ty for all the replys by the way, i hope ppl change there mind about us

Amnisac · Jun 09, 2005, 04:40 AM // 04:40

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Originally Posted by Qenelder

and one other thing if you know any good way to make my self better then i already am plz tell me lol like tell me some skill setups or something i really like ranger prof

My Favorite has got to be Penetrating Attack/Power Shot + Tiger's Fury + Melandru's Arrows. Ussually only good in PvP, and obviously when the opp is under an enchantment. I have done 45+ per shot to Monks, and over 80 with a Bow Attack skill like Power Shot. I also soemtimes throw in a Favorable Winds for a little extra speed and damage.

Qenelder · Jun 09, 2005, 04:41 AM // 04:41

ty for info

Tellani Artini · Jun 09, 2005, 04:42 AM // 04:42

The best way to earn respect for all rangers is to make sure your enemy knows it was a ranger that took them down, when you do make it into a HoH group. Of course, first you have to be good enough to take people down ;d

There are all kinds of ranger builds on these forums. Take a look at those.

Qenelder · Jun 09, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

k ty and ive taken a few mnks out in some HoH in my time

Qenelder · Jun 09, 2005, 05:17 AM // 05:17

Yah that was fun i went toe to toe with a half health war mnk who was healing i took his rear end down.. i have fav winds, Serpents quikening...whirlwind.....read wind....penatrating attack.....precision shot...cripple shot.... and troll ungent worked for that run we lasted 4 runs hmm if any of you see problem with that set up plz warn me

Algren Cole · Jun 09, 2005, 05:24 AM // 05:24

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Originally Posted by Renzol

I think it's because the Rangers are easy to be taken out if a team's smart enough, and they don't deliver enough damage to make a big difference in a large battle, just my speculation though.

My buddy is a level 13 Ranger/Monk... I've seen him do 101 -25 Damage...that's a good deal of damage for 1 shot.

eA-Zaku · Jun 09, 2005, 05:32 AM // 05:32

Let's see how your buddy fares against a lvl 20 W/Mo or earth elementalist...

Dodge, evade, evade, evade, evade, block, block, evade, block, block -1

Algren Cole · Jun 09, 2005, 05:34 AM // 05:34

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Originally Posted by eA-Zaku

Let's see how your buddy fares against a lvl 20 W/Mo or earth elementalist...

Dodge, evade, evade, evade, evade, block, block, evade, block, block -1

why would A Level 13...that's about 1/4 the way through PvE face off against a Level 20?

don't throw asinine comparisons into the pot...it makes everyone reading dumber

Qenelder · Jun 09, 2005, 05:47 AM // 05:47

lol...

Lord Malikai · Jun 09, 2005, 06:10 AM // 06:10

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Originally Posted by eA-Zaku

Let's see how your buddy fares against a lvl 20 W/Mo or earth elementalist...

Dodge, evade, evade, evade, evade, block, block, evade, block, block -1

Was doing level 15 arenas with my (at the time) level 15 R/Me. He made Wa/Mo look like a fool. First, I'd apply poison, then hit reflexes to dodge and attack faster, when that ran I would hit Chaos Storm, let him waste all his energy then hit him backfire then power shot and hunters shot. bye bye Wa/Mo. Sometimes, they'd try to run. Run from a bow ? Hehehehe.

Earth Elem ? Easy. Pin Down, run away, smack him with poison + bleeding. Ward vs melee ain't gonna help vs arrows. The only thing I would worry about is enervating charge and stoning.

Jun 09, 2005, 04:15 AM // 04:15	#1
Qenelder Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oklahoma Guild: Guardians of the Abyss Profession: R/E	Why is it that RANGERS are not wanted when doing like a HoH battle Im a RANGER (my main is atleast) and i never am able to find a HoH grp or any other important grp... all ppl ever want is AIR ELE, WARS, MNKS, and MES and NECROS occasionaly... and RANGERS like once in a life time.... Why are rangers so unpopular and what can one do to change it... I really like to defend Americas Honor but i can never find a grp on my RANGER *Qenelder Befreier* RNG/ELE Guild: Guardians of the Abyss "If not us, then who?"

Jun 09, 2005, 04:18 AM // 04:18	#2
Renzol Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2005	I think it's because the Rangers are easy to be taken out if a team's smart enough, and they don't deliver enough damage to make a big difference in a large battle, just my speculation though.

Jun 09, 2005, 04:20 AM // 04:20	#4
eA-Zaku Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	People haven't found the true potential of Rangers, therefore the majority of rangers available for HoH aren't as efficient as others, who have found a way to make good characters (Air Elementalists), or those who play characters that are "inherently" or assumed to be good (Warriors and Monks)

Jun 09, 2005, 04:24 AM // 04:24	#5
Renzol Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2005	Yeah, most people can't figure out where a ranger goes in a big fight, and often when someone equips their skills, it's not the best mix. Like Zaku said, Elementalists and Warriors/Monks whatever, all have their own predetermined spot in battles, while the rangers have a spot, but most people don't know what it is

Jun 09, 2005, 04:27 AM // 04:27	#7
Renzol Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2005	If you wanna practice, just do the general arena, or go into the tourney, sure your stuck with Pugs either way, but you'll get better

Jun 09, 2005, 04:27 AM // 04:27	#8
Amnisac Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Marhan's Grotto Guild: Running Makes It Worse [Run] Profession: R/E	I've found a new ay to get into HoH. I just mention I can, and know how to use Frozen Soil and a few teams ussually jump for it. I've seen a few other ranger use this trick also. It also helps to have Monk as a secondary.

Jun 09, 2005, 04:28 AM // 04:28	#9
Qenelder Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oklahoma Guild: Guardians of the Abyss Profession: R/E	and one other thing if you know any good way to make my self better then i already am plz tell me lol like tell me some skill setups or something i really like ranger prof

Jun 09, 2005, 04:35 AM // 04:35	#10
Qenelder Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oklahoma Guild: Guardians of the Abyss Profession: R/E	ty for all the replys by the way, i hope ppl change there mind about us

Jun 09, 2005, 04:41 AM // 04:41	#12
Qenelder Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oklahoma Guild: Guardians of the Abyss Profession: R/E	ty for info

Jun 09, 2005, 04:42 AM // 04:42	#13
Tellani Artini Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: America Guild: The Kansas City Hotsteppers [KCHS] Profession: R/	The best way to earn respect for all rangers is to make sure your enemy knows it was a ranger that took them down, when you do make it into a HoH group. Of course, first you have to be good enough to take people down ;d There are all kinds of ranger builds on these forums. Take a look at those.

Jun 09, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45	#14
Qenelder Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oklahoma Guild: Guardians of the Abyss Profession: R/E	k ty and ive taken a few mnks out in some HoH in my time

Jun 09, 2005, 05:17 AM // 05:17	#15
Qenelder Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oklahoma Guild: Guardians of the Abyss Profession: R/E	Yah that was fun i went toe to toe with a half health war mnk who was healing i took his rear end down.. i have fav winds, Serpents quikening...whirlwind.....read wind....penatrating attack.....precision shot...cripple shot.... and troll ungent worked for that run we lasted 4 runs hmm if any of you see problem with that set up plz warn me

Jun 09, 2005, 05:32 AM // 05:32	#17
eA-Zaku Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Let's see how your buddy fares against a lvl 20 W/Mo or earth elementalist... Dodge, evade, evade, evade, evade, block, block, evade, block, block -1

Jun 09, 2005, 05:47 AM // 05:47	#19
Qenelder Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oklahoma Guild: Guardians of the Abyss Profession: R/E	lol...